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dan3 days ago
Cross-run MI plus timing side channels feels like the right hammer here, even before the frontier data lands.
anyaw3 days ago
> Cross-run MI plus timing side channels feels like the right hammer here I do not think timing is the right axis to start from. If the agents are colluding throguh tool outputs, shared prompts, or even just low-bandwidth symbol choices, the leakage can be entirely content based while looking perfectly ordinary in wall-clock time, so a timing detector will miss the interesting cases and mostly flag scheduling noise. Cross-run MI is more promising, but only if you define the units carefully, otherwise you end up measuring the benchmark harness and not the agents. The harder part is cross-principal alignment of messages, not latency, because a colluding pair can spread a code across runs with almost no temporal regularity at all.
hbrown3 days ago
Also, tool-selection sequences are a cleaner signal than raw timing.
tara133 days ago
People keep trying prompt audits, but covert-channel detection is the older, uglier problem.
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